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		<title>By: zp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the NPR story I heard on this was pretty fair - Robert Siegel talking with DT Max on Dec 28th.  

I think the conversation followed Kitara's arguments, that the line between cloning and breeding isn't that clear - both produce generations of "identical" animals - and the resulting product isn't more or less harmful to humans than a bred product.  On the other hand, the conversation argued, bred populations tend to have weaknesses (to disease, injury, etc) and that problem would be present and perhaps amplified in the situation of clones.  These weaknesses are bad for the animals, no doubt, and possibly dangerous for the humans that eat them too, as sicknesses result in over-use of antibiotics, etc . . . 

audio was here: http://news.yahoo.com/video/2142

ps.  I'm a Pittsburgher and pretty excited about this blog.  My blog links to my other Pittsburgh food favorites . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the NPR story I heard on this was pretty fair - Robert Siegel talking with DT Max on Dec 28th.  </p>
<p>I think the conversation followed Kitara&#8217;s arguments, that the line between cloning and breeding isn&#8217;t that clear - both produce generations of &#8220;identical&#8221; animals - and the resulting product isn&#8217;t more or less harmful to humans than a bred product.  On the other hand, the conversation argued, bred populations tend to have weaknesses (to disease, injury, etc) and that problem would be present and perhaps amplified in the situation of clones.  These weaknesses are bad for the animals, no doubt, and possibly dangerous for the humans that eat them too, as sicknesses result in over-use of antibiotics, etc . . . </p>
<p>audio was here: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/video/2142" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/video/2142</a></p>
<p>ps.  I&#8217;m a Pittsburgher and pretty excited about this blog.  My blog links to my other Pittsburgh food favorites . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Kitarra</title>
		<link>http://corduroyorange.com/?p=125#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud the FDA's progressive decision.  I am not sure what there is to be freaked out about.  I mean we have been genetically manipulating livestock and plants for....well since we figured out we could.

Right now cloning livestock for food is not feasible.  But the idea behind is brilliant.  It is a short cut to getting desirable traits in meat.  Instead of breeding traits with rather unexpected results you get the qualities of the animal you want up front.  If say a pig has the right meat to fat ratio and grows to the correct size, is disease resistant and has the right meat flavor it is easy to just go ahead and produce more of the same animal rather than try to breed the exact same traits again.

Cloned meat is also a good way to bring back marginalized or nearly non-existent species.  There has been a lot of discussion recently about heirloom animal species in an ongoing attempt to recapture the food taste of our forefathers.  This is especially apparent in pork where people are now seeking pig varieties that are not as lean as the commercially available products.  Some of the heirloom animals are reduced to essentially pet status an bringing them back is a difficult, daunting proposition.  It would be easier if you could select a small group of excellent genetic specimens of the breed from all over the world and clone them.  You could then breed or clone accordingly.  It might also help bio diversity, as you cannot breed long distance (frozen, fed-exed sperm not withstanding) but you can certainly clone across the world.

I don't even see why it's an issues.  The resulting animal is still just meat. What difference does it make if it started out as a natural egg or a manipulated one.  Heck I don't even care of the egg is a chimera (a cross between two species).  Cross my bunny with jelly fish, bring it on.  Cross my goat with spider genes (actual plan not making it up), go for it.  So long as the meat is not toxic, I am AOK with it.  Just means I get to try something exotic.

We revel in eating weird and difficult to get foods.  So why would an ordinary side of beef be so daunting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the FDA&#8217;s progressive decision.  I am not sure what there is to be freaked out about.  I mean we have been genetically manipulating livestock and plants for&#8230;.well since we figured out we could.</p>
<p>Right now cloning livestock for food is not feasible.  But the idea behind is brilliant.  It is a short cut to getting desirable traits in meat.  Instead of breeding traits with rather unexpected results you get the qualities of the animal you want up front.  If say a pig has the right meat to fat ratio and grows to the correct size, is disease resistant and has the right meat flavor it is easy to just go ahead and produce more of the same animal rather than try to breed the exact same traits again.</p>
<p>Cloned meat is also a good way to bring back marginalized or nearly non-existent species.  There has been a lot of discussion recently about heirloom animal species in an ongoing attempt to recapture the food taste of our forefathers.  This is especially apparent in pork where people are now seeking pig varieties that are not as lean as the commercially available products.  Some of the heirloom animals are reduced to essentially pet status an bringing them back is a difficult, daunting proposition.  It would be easier if you could select a small group of excellent genetic specimens of the breed from all over the world and clone them.  You could then breed or clone accordingly.  It might also help bio diversity, as you cannot breed long distance (frozen, fed-exed sperm not withstanding) but you can certainly clone across the world.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even see why it&#8217;s an issues.  The resulting animal is still just meat. What difference does it make if it started out as a natural egg or a manipulated one.  Heck I don&#8217;t even care of the egg is a chimera (a cross between two species).  Cross my bunny with jelly fish, bring it on.  Cross my goat with spider genes (actual plan not making it up), go for it.  So long as the meat is not toxic, I am AOK with it.  Just means I get to try something exotic.</p>
<p>We revel in eating weird and difficult to get foods.  So why would an ordinary side of beef be so daunting?</p>
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		<title>By: courtney</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two thought processes running on this right now. One is like yours a little freaked out. The second is from someone who enjoys meat, but also loves animals, so I will often go into spells where I very little meat, until we get busy and I start to eat out again, and lets face it the restaurant industry doesn't cater to vegetarians. So this side of me says well "It's not really a cow so I don't have to feel guilty about eating this steak". 

Which side of me will win out?

 I don't know. But the part that really gets me is that they know we don't want it because they are saying they are refusing to distinguish between the two as they think that consumers will ban anything with the cloned meat. THAT'S how you know the Lobbyists have too much power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two thought processes running on this right now. One is like yours a little freaked out. The second is from someone who enjoys meat, but also loves animals, so I will often go into spells where I very little meat, until we get busy and I start to eat out again, and lets face it the restaurant industry doesn&#8217;t cater to vegetarians. So this side of me says well &#8220;It&#8217;s not really a cow so I don&#8217;t have to feel guilty about eating this steak&#8221;. </p>
<p>Which side of me will win out?</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know. But the part that really gets me is that they know we don&#8217;t want it because they are saying they are refusing to distinguish between the two as they think that consumers will ban anything with the cloned meat. THAT&#8217;S how you know the Lobbyists have too much power.</p>
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		<title>By: Xerxes1729</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know.  We've done all sorts of weird things throughout history.  Depending on how you look at it, all sorts of food practices are unnatural.  Consuming milk as adults?  Very, very weird.  Lactase persistence (the ability to digest milk sugar after infancy) is a response to this strange behavior.  Inbreeding animals and plants to fix desired traits?  Not natural, though in agricultural species it isn't as bad as it is among different dog breeds.  We've been cloning plants for quite a while - the bananas we eat don't have seeds, and so we clone the plants by transplanting parts of their root systems.  The apples you eat are almost certainly from trees that were made artificially by grafting limbs from one cultivar onto the trunk of another.  Heck, you can even make a plant that will grow tomatoes above ground and potatoes below.

That said, it is troubling that the comment period is so much shorter for this issue than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  We&#8217;ve done all sorts of weird things throughout history.  Depending on how you look at it, all sorts of food practices are unnatural.  Consuming milk as adults?  Very, very weird.  Lactase persistence (the ability to digest milk sugar after infancy) is a response to this strange behavior.  Inbreeding animals and plants to fix desired traits?  Not natural, though in agricultural species it isn&#8217;t as bad as it is among different dog breeds.  We&#8217;ve been cloning plants for quite a while - the bananas we eat don&#8217;t have seeds, and so we clone the plants by transplanting parts of their root systems.  The apples you eat are almost certainly from trees that were made artificially by grafting limbs from one cultivar onto the trunk of another.  Heck, you can even make a plant that will grow tomatoes above ground and potatoes below.</p>
<p>That said, it is troubling that the comment period is so much shorter for this issue than others.</p>
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